The Leadersmith


March 31, 2021

In this episode, I am releasing the second part of a conversation with Kirsten Ross Vogel. Kirsten is a podcaster and

She talks about the value that we bring to the table. Specifically, she will talk about feelings of not being good enough. She talks about how people pleasers are actually trying to control others, how the imposter syndrome works, and what to do if you don’t have credentials.

She completely altered my understanding of people-pleasing. I was blown away by her reframing of the subject.


Kirsten graciously spoke at a two day event sponsored by the Excellence in Leadership Institute. For more about ELI, click here:


If you would like to find Kirsten, you can find more about her here: 


Check out her podcast, Live and Lead for Impact:


Her books include From People Problems to Productivity

and Defeat Team Drama Now (which  has crazy-good ratings):


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